Zachary Sharp
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Post by Zachary Sharp on Mar 30, 2008 22:11:24 GMT -6
Watched it from start to finish... Really not a bad Wrestlemainia, and I belive ALOT better than any since 17 or 19.. in my eyes anyways. As far views go... Match of the Night: Money in the Bank Ladder Match. This was one of the most exciting and unpredictable matches I can remember! Having Punk win just came out of left field to me. But makes sense that WWE would wanna push a guy they know won't turn up with Roids or Dope.  Amazing match. So many amazing spots. Morrisons moonsault with the ladder was jaw dropping. Shelton's flip off the ladder in the ring, breaking the ladder across the floor was amazing. Hardy's (Matt, not the drugy) return was done great as I had pegged MVP to take this thing. So many teased finishes. Just amazing. I loved every second and was on the edge of my seat. Moment of the Night: Flair's Goodbye. I had tears in my eyes... I can't lie. The match was great, easily up there for match of the night with the MitB and Edge/Taker. But the ending with Shawn mouthing "I'm sorry" and "I love you" before the winnig Sweet Chin was just so well done, so well done. And I beg to differ with Tate... as WWE has changed their Wrestlemainia format the last few years since the brand split where the "last match" doesn't necessarily mean it's the Main Event. Since now most Wrestlemainia's technically carry u to four Main Events. Big Show/Mayweather was actually the most talked about and hyped up outside the wrestling world. While inside it was Flair and HBK. What a good match... with Shawn's HORRIBLE looking springboard moonsault where he cracked his ribs on the table, just made me cringe. How Shawn Michaels does what he does when he HAS to be hurting just makes me respect him so much more. I believe JR and King said it best... "If Ric Flair is considered the best of all time. Shawn Michael's must be 1A." Overall I really enjoyed this PPV... Show/Mayweather was what was expected. Undercard served it's purpose. Biggest shock of the night for me after seeing Punk win was easily seeing Orton retan! I jumped out of my seat clapping when he pinned that fucking Cena!  A |
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Post by Icon Lord Leon Corbin on Mar 30, 2008 22:22:04 GMT -6
I wouldn't say Orton retained easily, that's a bit of an exaggeration considering he was outshone by the other two but I did like the fact he got to pin Cena. I was expecting that if it went to someone other than Cena that it would not be him being pinned. I thought it was kinda funny with the voting thing though. It almost looked like they made the decision of who retains after the votes came in just to swerve people lol. let the lowest vote pin the highest haha!!
I wasn't that surprised to see Taker win. I couldn't see him dropping that streak at all. Having said that, Edge can get the title back, there's no way to get a streak back.
Also, strange as it was to have Flair/Michaels halfway...had it been the last match on the show...I would have automatically presumed he'd lose.
Match of the night for action: Money in the Bank (great showmanship from all involved)
Match of the night full stop: Flair v Michaels (great drama)
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Post by The Root on Mar 30, 2008 22:52:07 GMT -6
Mayweather and Show was booked perfect in my opinion. Show dominated him almost the entire match. He had fun with him because he thought there was no way Floyd could take him down. It ended up taking his entire posse and brass knucks to finally defeat him. And besides, how many people in this world could even move after a Floyd Mayweather punch let alone with brass knucks? Flair vs HBK was amazing. MIB was great, triple threat was meh, and the ME was ok. Glad to see Taker win. I have a feeling that we are going to see Rock vs. Austin next year  |
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Post by Icon Lord Leon Corbin on Mar 30, 2008 23:07:32 GMT -6
It wasn't great...it was unnecessary. the show didn't need a dense gimmick match like that when the ECW title match could have some decent TV time and really what does it help Big Show from here? What's he going to do now that crap is over since his return has focused only on a non-wrestler? If they had any sense, Mayweather would have enlisted help, not from his boys but the next person to feud Show so he can keep going after Mania smoothly. This match worked only for the night and that's stretching it considering until the end it was not believable in any way.
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Post by Icon Lord Sean "Magic" Fiery on Mar 30, 2008 23:21:51 GMT -6
I thought this was a pretty damn great Wrestlemania. The only real bad thing was the Diva crap, IMO. Everything else lived up and/or exceeded my expectations.
Finlay/JBL was a pretty good start to the show. Not an amazing match by any stretch, but I enjoyed it. Bummed Finlay lost, but I don't think the feud's over.
Money in the Bank was GREAT! I liked the innovation they used a few times, especially when they had the 2 ladders connected. IMO, they need more stable ladders, because there were some spots that were sloppy because the ladders kept falling apart. Good spots, though... The Morrison moonsault, Shelton pushed off the ladder and breaking that other one in half, Matt Hardy... I liked the Backstabber off the ladder, too. I was cheering for Kennedy myself, but when Punk (my second prediction) won I was definitely happy. Glad that they're not going for the predictable rout.
Batista/Umaga wasn't bad. They made Umaga look good in 90% of it... He really is a good wrestler and I like that they showcased his abilities. The ending was way preditable, though. I like that Batista almost messed up the powerbomb but managed to turn it into one anyway haha.
Mayweather/Big Show... All in fun entertainment. I still don't get the hate towards it. It's not meant to be taken seriously. Big Show made it good, though. Hopefully they push him onto better things now.
Kane finally has a top belt... That was surprising. Hmmm... Kane and Taker with World titles... Interesting haha. Nothing else to say on that issue.
SO glad Cena didn't win! I liked the triple threat... Especially all the submissions. When Trips and Cena kept going back and forth on Orton, I thought that was pretty fun. Triple H doing the crippler crossface was just ODD haha. They could have made the match better, but I'm satisfied nonetheless... I wouldn't be surprised if they have a second triple threat at Backlash or something. Anyway, yay for Orton! I was surprised that he won, but very glad!
Flair/Michaels was great. I'm kinda glad HBK landed in the wrong spot on the table. Added so much more realism to the match, and I think it toned Michels down from overexaggerating a lot of moves like he did when he fought Hogan some years back at SummerSlam. He overexaggerated one move and I was like "SHIT! He's gonna do that all match!" and I think that little injury set it back to reality. Also, the last spot of the match was beautifully done... "I'm sorry, I love you..." BAM! Sweet Chin Music. Great ending. Sad, but great.
Taker/Edge was a pretty good match. I liked the story it told of all of the reversals... Because in the end it was a bit of a reversal that ended it. Summed up their feud VERY nicely... Edge using the camera, his henchmen coming out, trying to use the Tombstone. Edge looked GREAT in the match, too, so I'm glad it at least turned out like that.
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Post by Rob on Mar 31, 2008 7:44:53 GMT -6
I missed the first few matches. Batista/ Umaga wasn't bad, but Batista reminded me why I hate him with that botched finish. Silly cunt.
I was under the impression that the Show/ Mayweather match was meant to be strictly boxing, but I hadn't been watching Raw, so may have missed a change. In my opinion, Mayweather deserves no respect whatsoever for this. I don't think any boxer worth his weight would EVER be seen with brass knuckles, even if it's worked. The match seemed to be anything goes, so it could have ended many different ways, but the brass knucks made him look like a bitch instead of a boxer who had any faith in his ability. I may be putting too much thought into it, but I'd think that no self respecting boxer would be caught dead using them. I'd have went for a different finish. Not only that, but it was a shit match.
Kane/ Chavo was short, which is good because I hate watching Chavo. I have my own opinions on him, but I'll probably get smited if I put them up here. Let's just say I despise him, so I'm glad Kane has the strap, even if it isn't a very well respected one.
I couldn't get into the triple threat. I'm tired of seeing them on Mania now and it's just way overdone. Cena should be kept out of the title chase because fans resent his un-deservingly long reigns and no selling. I wanted to see Trips win, but Randy was just as good a choice. Not a bad match.
The Flair/ Michaels one was fucking great! Flair stopped overusing chops and I saw just why he was so well respected. He wrestled a great match with HBK and that cross body was good, considering his age. What made me respect Flair even more was that when he left, he did just that. Think about Hogan. He comes in once in a while, beats up young talent and poses for as long as he feels like doing so. He milks it for all it's worth. Now with Flair, who I think will truly retire as a wrestler could have done the same and no one would hold it against him. Instead, he hugs family members, waves to the crowd and leaves. There was a very dignified air about it and after that match, I wouldn't complain if he did get as much out his goodbye as possible. Instead, he kept it brief. Surprising, but admirable.
I liked the Taker/ Edge match. Good spots and Edge using all his heel moves as you'd expect. I'm glad Taker won because I think he deserves a title run after not only pushing people, but having to work with the likes of Henry and Khali. I hope his title reign lasts for a little bit and that Batista stays the fuck away from that chase.
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Post by The Root on Mar 31, 2008 19:09:47 GMT -6
It wasn't great...it was unnecessary. The match was made to draw buy rates and to grab headlines. It did that 10 times over. WWE could pull a lot of new fans because of this match. It wasn't standard by any means, but it wasn't ever supposed to be. All the press WWE is getting from this is ridiculous. ESPN is even covering it as a real fight. lol And they had about 15 minutes they could have used for the ECW main event. It didn't go last that long because they didn't book it that way. Pretty sure Chavo is being punished for showing up at TNA Impact after he was told specifically, by Vince, not to. |
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Post by Icon Lord Leon Corbin on Mar 31, 2008 20:33:01 GMT -6
ESPN is doing what? That is a complete embarrassment LMAO! I am not even disputing it being about the money...it could ONLY be about the money as it certainly isn't about being entertained properly but there's no denying that in retrospect what we were watching on screen and have been leading to WM that it was amateur crap and could have been done so much better for what it was. It's sickening to think so much money was involved for something you or I could have done a whole lot better. Mayweather was terrible, hopefully that's the last of him we'll see in a wrestling ring. Damn Ricky Hatton. You know this shit wouldn't have taken place if he won a few months back...
I didn't know Chavo had done that. I don't think that match will hurt him half as much as the failing brand the title belongs to for it though. You would never know it was a World Title...
lol...real fight...hahaahaaaa!!
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Post by The Root on Mar 31, 2008 20:48:43 GMT -6
Floyd didn't get paid 20 million. That was pretty much denounced by Vince on Larry King.
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Post by Rico on Mar 31, 2008 22:18:05 GMT -6
I still think that no matter how much you hate Chavo or not, he was a World Champion, and a World Champion deserves a longer match on the Biggest Stage of them all. 8 Seconds, come on, this isn't Diesel/Bob Backlund we are talking about. Chavo actually knows a thing or two about wrestling as does Kane. I'm glad to see Kane win, I just think it really hurt Chavo's credibility with a freakin' 8 second loss on the biggest stage.
Flair/HBK was slated to be the match that closed out the show, but Flair said there's nothing more important than the Main Championships, so thats why Taker/Edge closed the show. Still, I could have settled for either match to close as both were possibly the Match(s) of the night.
Apparently Khali/Show is the next big man feud.....pfffffffffffff.....actually I'd like to see them in 1................ONE....ONE match, and not a single one past that lol...
Umaga IMO deserves a run with the HW title, he's a great worker, far better exposed than when he was Jamal in 3minute warning.
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Post by Head Booker on Mar 31, 2008 23:05:18 GMT -6
concernin' Ric Flair...see HEREalso about crebility issue...in this day and age I serious doubt an eight second loss to a main eventer like Kane ruins Chavo's...WWE is TOO BIG of a hype machine for someone to have their character ruined...in two months time the average wrestlin' fan will have forgotten the loss as Chavo will most likely be embroiled in some other feud...most marks are "out of sight...out of mind" type fans... Tate |
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Post by The Root on Mar 31, 2008 23:36:07 GMT -6
Bob Backlund knew a fair bit about wrestling as well Rico.
Every once in a while you just have to look at things like this as "sometimes it happens." People like Kane have always been built on the fact that they can take you down in a flash.
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Post by Richard Napier on Apr 1, 2008 12:51:12 GMT -6
I don't think Michaels botched the asai moonsault, I've rewatched it a couple times and Flair moved out of the way, he would had hit it otherwise. I'd say it was well done.
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Post by Richard Napier on Apr 1, 2008 12:53:57 GMT -6
Also: I'd of liked to see Mike Tyson come out during the Mayweather/Big Show thing and helped Mayweather, I think that would of been cool for a surprise thing. Just a thought.
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Post by Icon Lord Leon Corbin on Apr 1, 2008 12:55:17 GMT -6
It wasn't botched, it just missed Flair is all
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Amazing match. So many amazing spots. Morrisons moonsault with the ladder was jaw dropping. Shelton's flip off the ladder in the ring, breaking the ladder across the floor was amazing. Hardy's (Matt, not the drugy) return was done great as I had pegged MVP to take this thing. So many teased finishes. Just amazing. I loved every second and was on the edge of my seat.
