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Post by Head Booker on Apr 5, 2008 14:10:43 GMT -6
From Gerweck.net...
- According to several people, there is some tension between Punk and Carlito. It stems from Carlito being really jealous of Punk and his push. The WWE sent Carlito a message by making him job to Punk on television and by filming that dating skit with Santino.
- Colt Cabana and Ace Steel were originally supposed to be Edge's lackeys. The plan was for Ace Steel to be the serious wrestler, while Cabana was supposed to be the comedy wrestler. Edge was all for this. This didn't happen because Edge was injured during the Mardis Gras gimmick with Kane. They decided to use the Major brothers instead and Ace Steel was fired.
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Post by Rob on Apr 5, 2008 14:29:52 GMT -6
Sucks for Steel. Serves Carlito right, the petty shit that he is. Punk has a hard enough time with the road agents for fuck's sake. He deserves the push.
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Post by Rico on Apr 5, 2008 19:31:20 GMT -6
Carlito should only be mad at himself, because management pushed him from the beginning, having him to defeat John Cena for the United States title in his first match. Carlito then went on not applying himself nor did he try to improve himself. Punk worked hard for what he's gotten, and from what I hear he was this good even before he came to the WWE.
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Post by Rob on Apr 5, 2008 20:20:57 GMT -6
True on both counts. Carlito has a shitty attitude.
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Post by Icon Lord Sean "Magic" Fiery on Apr 6, 2008 2:02:34 GMT -6
I still think it's BS how they treat Punk. He's a huge fan favorite. He works great. And his wrestling is definitely one of the better talents WWE has. When him and Morrison are in the ring, it's magic. But him getting in "trouble" for stupid reasons is just ridiculous, and that they disrespect his wrestling style, calling it "sloppy", is just plain retarded. Glad to see him get better work now, though.
Also, I think they should push Santino. He's such a great character. His promo with Maria on Raw had me rolling in laughter. It's a shame he's stuck in the Diva division, like he pointed out in that promo... He needs to be used better. A feud with Jericho would be AMAZING! They need to heat up the IC division, and he'd be a great attriubte to that.
Carltio seems like a fucking baby. He's a good talent, but damn... He doesn't seem to care about the business much.
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Post by Icon Lord Leon Corbin on Apr 6, 2008 3:02:22 GMT -6
Glad you said that about Santino, Seano. I really do like him and, given a proper chance, I think he'd do very well. I find him hilarious.
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Post by Rico on Apr 6, 2008 10:32:32 GMT -6
I'm glad they turned Santino heel because his face character wasn't working at all...I really began liking him after his promos with Stone Cold, they were just pure laughter.
I think Punk/Orton will be able to work great with each other. Glad Orton didn't have to Job to 3H and that other guy, at Mania. The WWE is going to be pushing Punk alooooooot more now that they have this kids magazine coming out and Punk is a great Role Model for them, but some how they will have, that other guy, involved in it too.
back to what Sean said about Jericho/Santino I whole heartedly agree that would really heat up the IC division, Jericho just needs more time to get back to the way he was before he left the last time. The promo rust is coming off and i think he and Santino will put on some funny skits.
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Post by Mr Ed on Apr 6, 2008 10:51:02 GMT -6
I'm glad they turned Santino heel because his face character wasn't working at all...I really began liking him after his promos with Stone Cold, they were just pure laughter. His face character was intentionally unlikeable so that he could become a heel. he was always intended to be a heel. |
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Post by Icon Lord Sean "Magic" Fiery on Apr 6, 2008 15:12:59 GMT -6
If Orton lost to Triple H it would NOT be jobbing  Trips has done more than enough to help out and prove that he's not just the "husband of Stephanie". Especially at No Mercy... 3 title matches in one night, and losing in the end. I don't see Undertaker doing that... Ever... |
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Post by Icon Lord Leon Corbin on Apr 6, 2008 15:14:01 GMT -6
BAM!! 
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Post by Icon Lord Sean "Magic" Fiery on Apr 6, 2008 15:26:42 GMT -6
Oh no, I have more now.
Matter a fact, he hasn't won a wrestlemania in, what, 5 years? Since Wrestlemania 19?! Come on, Rico...
Plus, Triple H was the one that basically CREATED Orton. Without him and Flair, without Evolution... Orton wouldn't be Champion or the wrestler he is today.
Oh yeah, and the same thing with Batista. Did he have to "job" to Trips? Um... Last time I recall, Trips lost to him 2 months in a row. It's FUCKING BATISTA!
Ah, and let remind you that Undertaker has beaten everyone I've just mentioned above at WM. All of Evolution.
AND! Triple H ALSO lost to Cena at WM 22 as well... CENA[/i]
OH MY GOD, RICO! HE ALSO LOST TO JEFF HARDY! Something, again, Undertaker couldn't do...
Let's see here... I'm pretty sure if anyone lost to Triple H it wouldn't be a "job"... It would be believable... Something that Undertaker can't grasp most times. 2 spears in a row at Mania and he can suddenly put in a submission? Yeah..........
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Post by Rob on Apr 6, 2008 15:27:49 GMT -6
Maybe, but he has worked matches with Mark Henry and Khali a number of times now. I think he's shown a LOT of patience in that.
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Post by Icon Lord Sean "Magic" Fiery on Apr 6, 2008 15:31:33 GMT -6
I'm using Taker as an example in the fact that Rico doesn't pay any mind to the fact when people lose to him, it isn't a job at all. But when it comes to Triple H, every time he wins, it's a job for the other guy. Cena is understandable... But Trips has proven well enough his patience lately himself.
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Post by Rico on Apr 7, 2008 14:05:08 GMT -6
first off Sean...I didn't mean Job, I meant to put Lose, but since you are going down that road..
each of the champions in the past 8 years has gone through the Undertaker. Undertaker helps to create new stars. Undertaker has put over Everyone....yes EVERYONE on the roster...even Khali.....Khali.
That is something that 3H will not do. Taker has put over 3H numerous amounts of times, He's put over Orton numerous amounts of time, hell he even put over Jeff Hardy when he was Champion in the Ladder match.
matter of fact he has lost to Matt Hardy, even put him over in the match. Brock Lesnar, The Rock, Kurt Angle, Edge, Kane, Rey Mysterio, Hogan, Warrior, Mark Henry, Big Daddy V etc those are just a number of guys that Taker has put over. There is no chance in Hell that 3H will ever put over Big Daddy V or Mark Henry, hell he wouldn't even put over Umaga or King Booker, in which Taker has put over Booker, and soon Umaga, Kennedy, MVP
Kurt Angle has stated in columns that Taker puts over stars, he goes back and forth from Mid-Card status to Main Event status. 3H will not do that, he always wants to be in the limelight.
What does him having 3matches in one night mean to putting over Orton, nothing....nadda zip zilch.
Taker has put over RVD, Big Show, everyone who has came through the WWE has been put over by the Taker in either a victory or a great showing during their match.
plus I have never stated that 3H never jobs to anyone, but other than Evolution whom has 3H created or Helped to get up to the Main Event? 8 times out of 10 each person that Taker feuds with is elevated to main event status or even a main event rub....
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Post by Rico on Apr 7, 2008 14:07:11 GMT -6
Vader, Mankind, HBK and yes even 3H has been put over by Taker......
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Trips has done more than enough to help out and prove that he's not just the "husband of Stephanie". Especially at No Mercy... 3 title matches in one night, and losing in the end. I don't see Undertaker doing that... Ever...