Heatwave V: BYOB

[Sir Chris Cairns]

Bring your own beer, and be your own booker. What would you book for Heatwave V? It seems like another one of those events where GZW2K1 creative have got it half right and half wrong. What do you think? What would you do? I would have spent all the money in the world to sign Lord John Taylor for one night, just to face Bane in the ultimate rematch, in Bane's retirement bout. Man, that would be awesome!


Smarkster

[Loong Time Viewer]

Seeing that GZG for whatever reason pushes Heatwave like its a major pay-per-view (the event in Japan should become the other third along with Aftermath and Anniversary Armageddon) I have to say this is a fairly stacked card. Three Lord of the Coliseums, two Ring of Honor Icons, and extreme stipulations out the ass hole, you can't beat that.

Bane versus Lord John Taylor wouldn't sell in my book. I mean, yeah, I would mark like hell if Lone Gunman came back to Hong Kong but to face Bane, pffft! I honestly don't see why President Seth Richards has been bending over backward to let Bane shaft vets like Icon Davis and Lord Leon Corbin. Now he's handed Lord Seth Raide without as much as a whimper from GZW. Hopefully Lord Raide rips Bane's spine out and picks his teeth with each vertebrae.

[gorman]

stfu n00b!!! bane is amaznig he rides around on a fuckin mootorized bed and spins and is cool wtf is so good about seth raide? OOOOOOOH IM SO SCARY I HAVE BIG BALD HEAD AND AM XTREEEEEEEEEEME!!! stfu raide b4 i punch u in teh ballsack! bane will destroy raide just lyke he destroyed camp panto star neon leon and boring natahniel davis! he also beat lord john taylor so is much better than stupud smelly boring prik lone gunman so STFU!!!!! n00b!!! R U READY 4 A DAM GOOD SLEEP?!?!?!?!?!?

[Sir Chris Cairns]

Bane paid his dues. At one point in time he was happily putting over every other member of the roster every single week. Plus Leon went over him clean twice in the past. All Bane managed was a dusty pinfall thanks to interference from Vanderbilt. And don't even get me started on how John Profit screwed him out of the HKWF Championship to cover-up a basic booking error. He's never asked for anything in return other than the simple request that he can go out in a bit of style.


Sparkster

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but Bane isn't even a serious competitor. he should be grateful the doors are even open for him to pull this shit. and what is it for? it's not helpin' guys like Raide, Corbin or Davis, men who live or have lived and breathed the damn business. the sooner Bane is gone for good, the better. I would hate to be in the shoes of the guys who have to put this waster over, and some dick up there is complainin' about Bane bein' screwed? how about Bane screwin' the company that's given him opportunity after another by walkin' in and out?

[Sir Chris Cairns]

Pfft. Amatuer. How long have you been a fan of GZW2K1 for to have made those bold claims - roughly December 2005? Try and at least have a memory slightly longer than your penis. which - if i imagine you correctly - is located on your forehead.

And when was the last time Raide did something positive for the benefit of others, or deserved all the championships and high profile feuds he was gifted for cutting about 1 promo a year at his peak?


Sparky

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Whatever, man. How about telling me the last time the Burger King Bane actually did somethin' in wrestlin' full stop? Sounds like you got a hard on for Bane and if I had been here since Dec 2005 then I can say with some certainty that I ain't seen that big bedbound bastard do anythin' worthwhile at all. So yeah, why is he here right now?

[Sir Chris Cairns]

so what if i have a hard on for bane? so he's been winding down for the past few years - who else has been around constantly for the past ten years without at least a year long absence from a top promotion? not many. and once his glory days had past him, at least he wasnt selfish and went out on a high like john taylor or pimp bizkit. he stayed and basically put over the entire roster in 2005, 2006 and even beyond. feuds and big wins over bane made many stars, or at least helped them gain momentum.

nobody says he should be lord of the coliseum or triple crown champion, but he can feel guilt-free about having the likes of corbin and nathaniel job a few lousy matches to him.

so...


STFU


Sparkz

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Bane? lousy match? same sentence? sounds about right, man. like I said, him gettin' in the ring just seems a waste.

[Addison Clark]

Hello fans,

It's as if the Bane and Raide encounter is the only match on the card! That match is perfect, really. They have a great deal of history and a lot of it involves the verbal heat. They've always had tension, that's no secret. I believe this match will surprise everyone.

Lord Corbin versus Kandi, while interesting, just doesn't seem like the kind of match Leon should be participating in. Put him in the main event. Kandi's on her way out anyway, I think she needs to be passing the torch on to someone else here soon. It'd be a nice send off.

The main event needs something else. Vanderbilt doesn't make much sense. Sean Fiery should be facing Lord Taylor, Monarch or Raze. The chemistry with Vanderbilt and Sean just seems forced. Icon Fiery can barely put together a promo against Vernon without wanting to vomit with the whole "respect" issue. Sure, Vernon is a great athlete but he's definitely not deserving. I wouldn't be surprised to see Sean take a little bit of a turn. He earned his Championship at Contest of Champions... Vernon just gets this thrown at his feet? I can't imagine Sean being very acceptable of this off camera, even though he's trying his best to promote Vernon. It's not working very well with the lack of effort on the other end.

There's a huge chance that main event will be changed. Heatwave is known for its crazy atmosphere. Unless Icon Fiery goes off the deep end and sends Vanderbilt to the slaughter, then I think the aforementioned three men would make the main event much more suitable for the nature of Heatwave. There's just no heat in this match. You have three different possibilities that could take it from boring to classic in an instant. Heck, Icon Fiery issued challenges to each of those men. Why not put one of those on this event? It would make a great deal of sense.

The other matches, leave them be I suppose. Could be better, could be worse. I'd like to have more to talk about going into Heatwave, but a lot of matches just seem too random to care about. The chaotic atmosphere should be there, though, so there's a chance we won't be let down afterall.

[Loong Time Viewer]

No disrespect to Mr.Clark but have you really been following GZW2K1 broadcast? To say that the other matches are "too random to care about" just smacks of a nonchalant viewing attitude and an elitist viewpoint of watching wrestling. Simply because your favorite wrestlers aren't involved or not in the main event you throw up the phrase "too random". Every match (minus the Cash the Check Ladder match) has been pushed for weeks if not months now. So before you get on your high horse, sir, you should really check out the show. I expect more from a former journalist employed by GZG.

On the topic of the main event, why isn't Vernon Vanderbilt credible as a worthy challenger to Icon Magic? The man is a former World Heavyweight Champion only removed one space from Icon Magic. So there has only been one person to hold the title between the time he lost it. Add to the fact he never received a rematch which he is contractually obligated because he immediately disappeared to handle PLOW business after Thy Kingdom Come and his first round exit in the Lord of the Coliseum tournament.

If it's true that Vanderbilt has taken a vow of silence to the media leading up to this event then that sucks monkey balls. The match definitely deserves to be pushed as the marquee matchup it is on paper. But if Icon Magic feels he's working one-sided in hyping it he should think about retiring again. He's been in this business long enough and been in feuds where he was the SOLE person hyping a match to know that is how wrestling works sometimes. Frankly speaking, Icon Magic hasn't even pushed this match since it's been announced. He's been more worried about his ongoing feud with Raze (who is already defending one of his three titles on Heatwave), his more than likely not to get sanctioned East of Eden match against Icon Monarch (who has paid Icon Magic about as much attention as a turd in the toilet since calling him out), and his ongoing feud with Lord Leon Corbin. If the World Heavyweight Champion can't carry his opponent and bring the heat to a "heat-less" match up, that wrestler shouldn't be the World Heavyweight Champion. Period.

[Addison Clark]

I don't watch the shows? Pity you say that since I work with GZG afterall. No, I watch the shows just fine. Shame on you for accusing me of such an act, sir! And I stand by my opinion that the event is too random. Let me explain, as obvious as I thought it was.

The Trouble Trax matches are really just a way to expose a newbie and Tonya Glory. It's really nice that they're getting a push into the mainstream, but this seems like a filler for Heatwave. They could have easily booked an HKWF match and it would have made more sense and fit the event's usual theme. This match makes no sense and doesn't have a lick of buildup. Random.

Cash the Check is even more filler. Give them a ladder, of course, it adds an extreme edge. Oooooh, it all makes sense now! This match is a tired formula. Aside from two of them men booked in the match, none of them can make a decent running to any of the GZW Championships. They should have taken away the useless elements in the match and just made a number one contender's match for the Intercontinental Championship. Instead, the winner is given a shot at any title of their chosing? Of course they'll smell the big cheese and try to go for the World Heavyweight Championship, but there's no way any of them are ready for that.

Travis Turner and Sean Locke? If you're not using that match to get snacks or take a power nap, then I'll applaud your efforts to be patient. This match has nothing to it. It's deepless. Yes, deepless. Yes, I know, this is wrestling we're talking about, but this match has no spark to it.

Red Dragon versus Raze, assuming he's still Extreme Champion by that time, would make perfect sense considering the whole situation with the fallout of Raze and Voodoo. No complaints on this match. I'd like to see what these two eventually do to each other down the line.

Sincere's recent involvements with Vyper and Eva just don't bring me anything new or exciting. I'd like to see Sincere delve back into his mastermind manipulation days and fool with these two, but he's been very tame since he's been back around. I mean, it's an okay possibility which ever opponent he faces, but again... What's the point of it all? Eva's being strapped into this division. She deserves much more. And Sincere really has no business there either. It's all such an odd situation. I'm not taking away from the TV Championship, but that's to help build new stars and bring them up. Eva's proved she's ready to go beyond that and Sincere doesn't need to be built.

Tommy Casper and Jon Kellar, while on paper is fantastic considering Jon's rivalry with the Corbins, it's also lacking a great deal of heat. Jon's seemingly dropped off the face of the planet at times and I feel for Casper trying to carry this himself, but there's only so much he can do. There's no denying the match will probably be a good one, but the rivalry has gone cold in my eyes.

Bane versus Seth Raide, voiced my opinion on that. Really the only match that has a good underlying heat advantage and promises to bring back some memories of their encounter at Aftermath a few years back.

Leon versus Kandi, again, random. Why are they fighting? Personal differences aside, I don't think Leon should be hunting for the IC Championship. He deserves to be going for the World Heavyweight Championship. Nothing taken from Kandi, she's been an amazing Champion and one of the greatest to step into a GZW ring. I think her opponent should have been set in mind a month or two ago so the GZW creative team could have worked out a better situation for this match. I wouldn't be surprised if this is her last match, and Leon shouldn't be the last one she faces in my opinion. It should be someone that needs a little bit of a push. Lord Corbin can push himself.

Now, this is where your ideas get absurd. Why isn't Vernon credible? I never said he wasn't. I said he doesn't deserve it right now. He shouldn't be there. Technicalities with his rematch clause aside, but what has Vernon done since his return to prove that he can carry that belt and take on the responsibilities? I'm looking at this card through the eyes of a backstage personnel, not a fan, which you seem to be doing. Vanderbilt is fine talent and give him a little while longer to prove that he's capable of being World Heavyweight Champion again. There's no need to bash Icon Fiery simply because his opponent is being a sassy crybaby about things and playing a silence card. He's been focusing on Raze because it was his most recent opponent and the match was highly anticipated. I think more anticipated than Heatwave's main event. You're judging him for not carrying heat into this match, but he's been given nothing to work with other than a card. Leon's adding more heat to this match than Vernon, actually. And I think Fiery's just bouncing off that heat as something to work with.

Maybe it's just me? Then again, I'm more intact with the business on different levels so I see things from a different side. I'm more into booking big events with big feuds. This would be an amazing card if it were any other Pay-Per-View, but Heatwave? I don't feel the like the atmosphere is being captured on paper. Why? Because it's all so random and lacks depth. Everything is pretty much new and fresh, hardly given much time to develop. Crimson could provide an extra bump or two, but I don't see that happening. I think I'm actually cheering on HKWF to make an impact. A bit contradictory, I know, but that random chaos has always worked for this event. It's more of a tradition, I guess.